These People are Christians? Conspiracies

Greg, even if your nutty, it doesnt negate that the world as a whole wants to do away with any remnant of biblical Christianity.

The best teaching I have ever heard on conspiracies was from Botkin from the history of the world conference and from his Hollywood talk on their favorite villain??? Bottom line, God does acknowledge that men “breath together” or as we call it conspire. God also says it is for nothing, that God uses them to bring about his purposes. Nothing can stay Gods hand and his purposes.

Along the way Gods people should not be helping or rooting for the conspirators!!! ?We should be standing for His principles and repeating back what God says about everything. Which brings you too, “what sayeth the scriptures?

Here is where Kevin Swanson is more concerned about getting the teachers to understand what God wants. Because we have had generations of elders and teachers who went to bible college, who were taught poorly to be generous and now have been teaching generations of believers that it is all about… the first commandment and loving God with all your heart ….but this law stuff would be legalistic and Jesus didn’t like that…. So it is for freedom you have been set free and don’t allow yourself to be burdened with a yoke of bondage again. That in a nutshell is the fallacy I believed. Basically you then miss it by a mile, or a thousand miles.

And people then wonder…? ”….I find it so difficult sometimes to understand how we can be living in the midst of a society of people, many who call themselves “Christian”,and yet do not know the first thing about the Lord they claim to serve…. they will be ever seeing but never hearing, comes to mind.


Somehow we got the notion, that when you get saved and you get the Holy Spirit …well… that supersedes this Old Testament stuff. Yes those areas that had to do with right standing before God. But we threw out the baby with the bathwater big time. So when I used to open a lot of the Old Testament all I heard were crickets chirping. It didn’t have anything relevant to say to me. Now I can find it as exiting as the new Testament.

Jesus kept saying ,to him who has ears to hear let him hear. Lord open our ears and eyes. Take off our cultural blinders we pray.

Thomas, I do think that the largest motivator and mover torwards allowing Government encroachment is that as a nation we do not want to suffer loss. Its not our fault. Someone didn’t explain it to us. We didn’t know… the women you gave me… the serpent came highly recommended … Only today the cry goes out to the State, “do something!!!” Save us! Its like we run to Pharaoh , “what good is it if we die, make us your slaves, but give us bread! So we move further from our heritage and further into captivity.

Let us be men and cry out to God, he is Lord. Psalm 59:8 But you o lord laugh at them: you shall have them in derision. I will wait for you, you o his strength, for God is my defense. We will make our camp around the one who laughs at them. And when, God looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God (Psalm 53:2) by his grace may he see us crying out to him, ”show us Lord!” and, “your ways are higher than our ways and we want to submit to your word!”.

Some men trust in the Fed and chariots, but we will trust in the name of the Lord!