Pulled my pants up again

the pants are way up....

I dont think that Rob was advocating the church get involved in judicial justice. But when the church is silent or muzzled and the state embraces the machiavelli mindset, you get laws , like as a part of the enlightenment, where in france you went to jail for seven years(?) for stealing bread.

There are many times where the church didnt give biblical ilumination to the state as to its role and the result was always tryanny. Or the church competed with the state for power, and the result was tyranny. Or as I think we are witnessing today, when the church is fuzzy on a standard, you get anarchy, which will be followed by tyranny. I think this is happening within a large segment of the church and the nation at large.