But What About Deborah?
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A look at how our culture, America,has shaped and formed what we know as the modern Evangelical Church. Time for a cattle drive in your mind, its time we take every thought captive. Seeing multi-generationally, family integrated fellowships,home schooling, embracing the dominion mandate and respecting God's jurisdictional order for the family, church and state for the glory of God!
...This is about the influence of the kingdom of God in a community, and Jesus compared the influence of His kingdom to yeast working its way through a loaf of bread. And when have you heard of yeast being successfully zoned to just one end of the loaf?...From Doug Wilson 2005 Differing Weights and Measures
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We live in an individualistic culture enveloped in an autonomous age, fertile soil for the evangelical doctrines of “soul competency” and the priesthood of the believer (singular). The very idea of absolutes applicable to all believers is regularly discounted in light of the final accountability we owe to God individually. American evangelicals are comfortable with this autonomy; they are not comfortable with uncompromising biblical standards or with admonitions for failing to adhere to them. The evangelical concept of “just me and my Bible” has become so pervasive we rarely unite around creeds, confessions, or even common commitments. To have anyone (including ecclesiastical authority) call us to a biblical standard of Christian education . . . .Well, bless your heart, brother; we would rather not talk about it. From Bradley Heaths book "Millstones & Stumbling blocks"....
....There has been a steady movement towards social pragmatism and messianic ideals---so that the state is viewed as the sole originator of law, and its legislation aims to create a perfect social order...
...Since the rule of Christ and God's law has been restricted to individual commitment and (if anywhere) private conscience, man has seen himself as free to generate or reject, as his own ethical authority, moral ideals and obligation. Individualism and liberty become the only absolutes which govern interpersonal relations. To "be yourself" and do what is dictated by desire is the goal of life; thus responsibilities and standards of justice come to be seen as shackles. Such thinking has gained widespread endorsement, being promoted in secular schools and represented in popular culture...Greg L. Bahnsen, Theonomy in Christian Ethics Pg 8
...Since the rule of Christ and God's law has been restricted to individual commitment and (if anywhere) private conscience, man has seen himself as free to generate or reject, as his own ethical authority, moral ideals and obligation. Individualism and liberty become the only absolutes which govern interpersonal relations. To "be yourself" and do what is dictated by desire is the goal of life; thus responsibilities and standards of justice come to be seen as shackles. Such thinking has gained widespread endorsement, being promoted in secular schools and represented in popular culture...Greg L. Bahnsen, Theonomy in Christian Ethics Pg 8
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- But What About Deborah?
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Modern autonomous man regards as sin, if he considers the subject at all, only that which offends his conscience. But Biblical law holds that sin and lawlessness can occur without knowledge and without conscience. Man, in fact, may sin with good conscience, but this does not alter the fact that he sins: the criterion of transgression is not man's conscience but the law of God.
Rushdoony ,The institutes of BiblicalLaw Vol1
Rushdoony ,The institutes of BiblicalLaw Vol1
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...Worse still, the experience made us stupid enough to think it would be a good experience for our children....“Well, I went to public school and I turned out fine.”.... Strange, because my faith calls me to not walk in the counsel of the wicked, nor to stand in the way of sinners, nor to sit in the seat of the scoffers... Rc Sproul Jr
Smorgasboard Christianity "..they also forgot to take to heart the whole counsel of the covenant God and his Law Word. Thus they lose sight of his true character, emphasizing only those aspects of deity which are comforting and only those demands of his which are convenient..."Sharon Porlier "Journal of Christian Reconstruction" 1985
Things we would rather not know...
"I may offend readers who think that sounding the alarm is worse than the fire itself"...from Bradley Heaths book "Millstones & Stumbling blocks"
About Me
- David Terry
- Phoenix, Arizona
- A refugee from modern evangelicalism. I have had to come to grip with so much that was being missed by modern American Christianity. It appears that Americana controlled more how I thought as a Chrisitan than God's word did. It was comfortable and normal, it was very inspirational and the fellowship was great! But it was counter biblical in so many ways. This blog chronicals some of my sorting it out. My family attends Legacy Baptist in Gilbert, Az. We have looked into the mirror and watched God change us as a Church. A miracle.
Upon hearing biblical principles taught, some parents wrestle with them
If that is you, then as you read, listen to your reason for your struggle. Is it because you believe the Bible teaches something different...? Or could it be that you have based your convictions on human ideas and worldly principles. Reb Bradley "Child Training Tips"
If that is you, then as you read, listen to your reason for your struggle. Is it because you believe the Bible teaches something different...? Or could it be that you have based your convictions on human ideas and worldly principles. Reb Bradley "Child Training Tips"
As A Man Thinks So Is He...
...The inner thought world determines the outer action. Most people catch their presuppositions from their family and surrounding society the way a child catches the measles. From "How Should we Then Live?" F. Schaeffer pg19
...The inner thought world determines the outer action. Most people catch their presuppositions from their family and surrounding society the way a child catches the measles. From "How Should we Then Live?" F. Schaeffer pg19
"The greatest insight of the Puritans was to acknowledge that religion cannot be confined inside the church. That Christianity is not simply concerned with the ecclesiastical, but with all of life. We know that no society has ever appeared without a faith, and no society has ever outlasted its loss of faith...that is the great lesson of history...Otto Scott, from his article on Crisis in Civilization...1991
There are two approaches to subjects, a humanistic one, and a theocentric and biblical one....my assertion was that the world and economics, is under God's law, NOT man's law
pg 111 " The Biblical Philosophy of History" Rushdoony
pg 111 " The Biblical Philosophy of History" Rushdoony
"The Biblical Philosophy of History"
..that meaning always escapes man when he seeks it in the realm of creation rather than in God. Because all things are made by God, nothing is understandable in terms of itself, but only in terms of God the creator. Neither fact nor man can be understood in reference to himself alone or to any created combonation, but only in terms of God. Remove God, and, eventually you remove meaning. pg100 Rushdoony
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"It is a modern heresy that holds that the law of God has no meaning nor any binding force for man today. It is an aspect of the influence of humanistic and evolutionary thought on the church, and it posits an evolving , developing God." R.J. Rushdoony
“Lincoln once observed
that the philosophy of the classroom is the philosophy of the government in the next generation.”
The lamp of the body is the eye If therefore your eye is good your whole body will be full of light... Matt:6:22
"So when the church must show what the way of Jesus is for, everything....Our culture, isn't just confused about sin and grace, it's confused about everything, it's confused about the family, justice, history, work, nature, sex, beauty, it's not just confused about religion..."
From "So Let Your Light": Ken Myers
"So when the church must show what the way of Jesus is for, everything....Our culture, isn't just confused about sin and grace, it's confused about everything, it's confused about the family, justice, history, work, nature, sex, beauty, it's not just confused about religion..."
From "So Let Your Light": Ken Myers
"When Jesus defines the mission of church in what we call the great commision he doesn't say to go out and save souls, He begins by declaring that all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me, He has authority over every aspect of creation and every aspect of human life and so there is no dimension we should not strive to be His disciples...." from "So Let Your Light"
If the wrong ideas are communicated to your children,
it will most certainly have an effect on how they live. If the wrong ideas are communicated to a great many children through education or the media, that could very well undermine our entire civilization. pg163 Kevin Swanson's book Upgrade (you were supposed to have read this book by now)
Because our Faith Touches the Whole of Our Lives,
it ought to make the whole of our lives look different. I'm not suggesting we walk on our hands because the pagans walk on their feet... I am suggesting that as we take every thought captive, we will likewise take all of our actions captive. Ideas have consequences -- in fact that is what ideas are for... RC Sproul Jr "Eternity in Our Hearts"
The Sacred/Secular Dualism
is not legitimate. It confuses the real issues, and misleads people into thinking certain aspects of life pertain to God, while others do not. Chrisitan Overman, Assumptions That Affect Our Lives. pg110
No, we don't have it all figured out.......
One family's journey from the wilderness of relativism into God's order for marriage, family, and church. Hallelujah!
"Secular"
While the word secular may be used to identify a sphere of life in which God is ignored, it cannot be used to identify a sphere of life in which God is irrelevant. Such a secular world does not exist... Chrisitan Overman, Assumptions That Affect Our Lives pg110
The Function of Education
is thus to school persons in the ultimate values of a culture . This task is inescapably a religious task. " The Philosophy of the Christian Curriculum" Rushdoony
History Has Never Been Dominated By Majorities,
But Only by Dedicated Minorities Who Stand Unconditionally On Their Faith. Rushdoony
…Furthermore, the field of Christianity is the world. The Christian cannot be satisfied so long as any human activity is either opposed to Christianity or out of all connection with Christianity. Christianity must pervade not merely all nations, but also all of human thought. The Christian, therefore, cannot be indifferent to any branch of earnest human endeavor. It must all be brought into some relation to the gospel. It must be studied either in order to be demonstrated as false, or else in order to be made useful in advancing the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom must be advanced not merely extensively, but also intensively. The Church must seek to conquer not merely every man for Christ, but also the whole of man… 1913 J Gresham Machen
ouch! This explains so much "...by the dawn of this century the Marxist realized that direct attacks on Christianity did not persuade so much as provoke. They had more success with the argument that religion is a purely private matter-of no concern to the Government or to society....by the turn of the century the new alternatives to Christianity had convinced universities and the intellectuals. The clergy vanished from the administration of colleges their churchs had founded, and were replaced by professional educators of carefully neutral agnosticism....though Christians had built the west and comprised the majority of its western citizens.
Around 1900, American scholars and writers began to expurgate Christianity from our litature. This was a remarkable step.... The Christian scholars of the United States, however, decided that the heirs of Christiandom in this land did not need to know the history of christianity. Nineteen hundred years of effort were culled from our history books, and only that which tended to place Christianity in a ridiculous or intolerant light was retained...."
Otto Scott , Journal of Chrisitan Reconstruction 1985 , From the good guys at Chalcedon.
Around 1900, American scholars and writers began to expurgate Christianity from our litature. This was a remarkable step.... The Christian scholars of the United States, however, decided that the heirs of Christiandom in this land did not need to know the history of christianity. Nineteen hundred years of effort were culled from our history books, and only that which tended to place Christianity in a ridiculous or intolerant light was retained...."
Otto Scott , Journal of Chrisitan Reconstruction 1985 , From the good guys at Chalcedon.
This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of the gentiles walk in the futility of their mind...and be renewed in the spirit of your mind and that you may put on the new man which is created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness Eph4:17 , 4:23,24
A world view is a net work of presuppositions that are not testable by natural science, in terms of which, all experience is related and interpreted...our most basic convictions make up our world view and it is what we use to measure and test all we know and experience... Greg Bahnsen
A world view is a net work of presuppositions that are not testable by natural science, in terms of which, all experience is related and interpreted...our most basic convictions make up our world view and it is what we use to measure and test all we know and experience... Greg Bahnsen
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