a wheenie Christian faith that has had minor visible impact

Continuing to think about culture. Nobody have a cow, more thinking out loud. Like playdo, stick your fingers in it and work it around.

For all those times you heard someone say that, well such and such, that was cultural. Every time you hear a Christian say this about something, it is probably always predicated on the assumption that culture itself is neutral. Culture just kind of happens and doesn’t really mean anything.

But culture is one of the payoffs of a faith. ...go disciple the nations. It is the fruit made manifest. You will see how well that a god is honored in the society by the degree to which his word has influence. All cultures are religous to the core. Education is one of the most religous things a culture does.

For the humanist, his faith extends to everything. This is not because humanism has a more demanding god. The humanist is just more consisitant with his fath, since it is in sync with his nature. For us christians, our natures, that which seems normal, is at odds with the ways of God. I am convinced the sanctification process is partly a derivative of how we are discipled. How many of us were discipled? Actually we all were discipled, maybe only poorly.

We are used to a wheenie Christian faith that has had minor visible impact on most Christians, let alone the society around us. This leads to an understanding of Christian liberty that seems ubiquitous, because I think, Gods word is being limited.

I had never really thought through my idea of Christian liberty and compared it to the word until last month. It’s the pitts. At some point I should get used to this.

It is helping me by first seeing the framework for life that God established for us from the word. ( more on this later) Christian liberty will have its place inside the framework. Today it is used for the most part, outside of the framework, as a wild card that needs to be played, because we don’t see the framework.

Modern Christianity has believed that, we must turn away from bad stuff. But without Gods Law, without giving Him His sovereignty, without using all of scripture we turn away, and by default embrace a lot of things that we think are benign.

Rob has his finger paints out and is trying to illustrate it as he can see it. We all need to put on our art smocks and catch more vision.

…taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. 2Cor10:5 If we take every thought captive...how much Christian Liberty will there be? Who is the thinking supposed to be captive to? Is it the norm for us to think in terms of ....taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ ..resulting in Christian liberty, or obedience to Christ?

We need to think about it.

…This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their mind… And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God…. which is your reasonable service…we are called to,.. know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law,..lest you should be wise in your own opinion, rather… casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ …. that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head--Christ-- Eph 4:17 ,Romans 12:2, Romans 12:1, Romans 2:18 Romans 11:25, 2 Cor 10:5, Eph 4:14-15

I believe I have kept the integrity of the scripture in this run on sentence. All these scripture speak of purpose, deliberateness. If we really look, and meditate about it, does the word suggest we should find way more direction than we usually do? It will always come back to His word. What sayeth the scripture?

Yes there is Christian liberty, just not, as it has been taken for granted.

Swanson had a couple of shows where he lamented at the weekness of our young men. The reason for that would be us fathers. Rats. These talks speak of the foundational building blocks that are part of forming a Christian culture.

Salvaging civilization In this first talk towards the end, he gives the name of what he calls his most important sermon he has ever given. Its on raising sons.

This second talk is a conversation about raising sons too. Raising real men